What are the rules regarding check dark/ bet dark in poker? But I'm wondering what the actual rules on it are, googling it turned up fruitless thanks to a TV series called 'poker after dark' with a similar search name. So, first of all who can do it? I'm fairly confident that the first to act can do it. Tom Dwan, Antonio Esfandiari and Daniel Negreanu played a massive pot during the return of Poker After Dark on PokerGO. Re: Poker after dark and real money Gavin Smith talked about this a while back on PokerRoad Radio. I'd have to find the episode, but I recall him saying that - for a tournament, anyway - the players pony up $10K while the show covers the other half of the $20K buy-in.
Nbc sports network poker after dark After all the players have completed their hands, he deals his own second card and completes the hand. You're not a Stitcher Premium subscriber yet. I read this player as a weak-tight player, and normally if he held the strongest hand he would simply check, so I called.
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I see it done on TV. But I'm wondering what the actual rules on it are, googling it turned up fruitless thanks to a TV series called 'poker after dark' with a similar search name.
So, first of all who can do it? I'm fairly confident that the first to act can do it. But what about everyone else? Seems like dark betting as anyone else but UTG is kinda the same as betting out of turn. But yet one seems acceptable and other not. Secondly, how do you signal a dark check/bet? And more importantly is it a binding action? What kinds of signals of it and how binding does it get? For example, telling people 'Ima raise this on the flop' but doesn't, does that constitute rule breaking? Thanks in advance to whoever can enlighten me on this. And f*** google searching, get the similar-name-syndrome sorted out already..
rdw4potus
I see it done on TV. But I'm wondering what the actual rules on it are, googling it turned up fruitless thanks to a TV series called 'poker after dark' with a similar search name. So, first of all who can do it? I'm fairly confident that the first to act can do it. But what about everyone else? Seems like dark betting as anyone else but UTG is kinda the same as betting out of turn. But yet one seems acceptable and other not. Secondly, how do you signal a dark check/bet? And more importantly is it a binding action? What kinds of signals of it and how binding does it get? For example, telling people 'Ima raise this on the flop' but doesn't, does that constitute rule breaking? Thanks in advance to whoever can enlighten me on this. And f*** google searching, get the similar-name-syndrome sorted out already.. The search works better if you leave out the word poker. Google is smart enough to know what you want if you just search 'checking in the dark' or 'rules for checking in the dark'
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DJTeddyBear
These types of questions often fall under 'House Rules', therefore, you're best bet is to check to see if the poker room has the rules available on their website. Or ask a floorperson.That said, since these tend to be non-standard strategies and procedures, if it's allowed, it is best to verbalize the intention and have the dealer repeat or acknowledge it. These questions, and a lot more, are covered in my post: Introduction to poker in a Casino Poker Room.
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michael99000
TV series called 'poker after dark'
Ahhhh.. I miss seeing Shana Hiatt each night.
mickeycrimm
I see it done on TV. But I'm wondering what the actual rules on it are, googling it turned up fruitless thanks to a TV series called 'poker after dark' with a similar search name. So, first of all who can do it? I'm fairly confident that the first to act can do it. But what about everyone else? Seems like dark betting as anyone else but UTG is kinda the same as betting out of turn. But yet one seems acceptable and other not. Secondly, how do you signal a dark check/bet? And more importantly is it a binding action? What kinds of signals of it and how binding does it get? For example, telling people 'Ima raise this on the flop' but doesn't, does that constitute rule breaking? Thanks in advance to whoever can enlighten me on this. And f*** google searching, get the similar-name-syndrome sorted out already.. There is no rule that says you have to look at your cards. You can do anything you want in the dark, fold, check, bet, raise. But there is no rule that says you have to look at your cards.
'Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill.' Mickey Crimm
bdc42
for the most part you can check in the dark if you are the first to act on the next betting round and yes it's binding when you say check in the dark since you are acting in turn. the player who is next to act after the 'dark check' can also check in the dark or even bet in the dark.
basically you can do whatever you want as to check, bet, fold or raise if it's your turn to act. if you are heads up, for example and player A who is closest to the button 'checks in the dark' player B can bet in the dark before the card hits the table. I think these rules play out the same just about everywhere. it goes without saying if 3 people check in the dark in turn, the 4th can do the same, wait for the card, or bet. signaling a dark check, in my experience, has always been verbal so that the table and most importantly the dealer hears the declaration. a person who says something like 'im gonna raise this on the flop' is acting out of turn. his 'raise' isn't and shouldn't be binding. it goes to table talk, imo. (he cant raise if he's first to act) so if there are 4 people to act before 'im gonna raise this flop' and he utters it when the card is hitting the felt, the action isn't binding. on the other hand if player A bets and it's his turn and he speaks those words, then he must raise. a famous example of this was the '2005 wsop' at least I think it was that year and Doyle Brunson was down to 55 people or so and he stated and the dealer heard him that he is going all in and only pushed a few chips over the line, the player didn't hear Doyle and said I'm gonna raise it, and the dealer said you cant raise it, he's all in, the player said, oh I fold then, but it was too late and the floor ruled he had to put all the chips in to cover Texas Dolly's bet and Doyles' 10's got busted by A-7 or something like that. if a guy is continuously angle shooting, by putting chips into the pot when its not his turn, he should be removed from the game. I hope this helps some.
tringlomane
As others have said, it's almost always verbalized. And when it happens a lot, that usually means I'm at the right table.
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AxiomOfChoice
There is no rule that says you have to look at your cards. You can do anything you want in the dark, fold, check, bet, raise. But there is no rule that says you have to look at your cards.
By 'dark', I think he means, before the next round of betting, not before he has seen his cards.
mickeycrimm
By 'dark', I think he means, before the next round of betting, not before he has seen his cards.
Oh, okay. Nevermind.
'Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill.' Mickey Crimm
Ibeatyouraces
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Gabriel Weston Kaplan (born March 31, 1945) is an American comedian, actor and professional poker player.[1] He played the named teacher in the 1970s sitcom Welcome Back, Kotter. He later became a professional poker player, and commentator for the series High Stakes Poker on GSN.
Early life[edit]
Kaplan was born in Brooklyn, New York, to a Jewish family.[2]
He graduated from New Utrecht High School.[3]
Acting career[edit]
As a kid, Kaplan had aspirations of being a Major League Baseball player. However, he was unable to make the roster of a minor league team and decided to pursue other interests. He began working as a bellman at a hotel in Lakewood, New Jersey. Touring comedians would sometimes perform at the hotel, and Kaplan began to work toward his own career as a stand-up comedian. Gabe honed his standup routine in 1964 in places such as the Cafe Tel Aviv at 250 West 72nd Street, New York City.
Kaplan's comedy was successful, and he toured the country with his act based on his childhood experiences in Brooklyn. He appeared five times on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson from May 1973 to December 1974. During that time, he also recorded the comedy album Holes and Mello-Rolls, which included long routines about his high school days, among other topics. The sitcom Welcome Back, Kotter, whose central characters he helped Eric Cohen and Alan Sacks create and whose core format he helped them to develop, was in part based on his comedy act. In the sitcom, Kaplan played Gabe Kotter, who returns as a teacher to the dysfunctional high school where he had been a student. The series ran from 1975â79, and Kaplan bought a home in Palm Springs, California with his earnings.[4] 'Up your nose with a rubber hose!', sanitized from the original album line 'Up your hole with a Mello-Roll!', became an unlikely catchphrase from the show. It became so popular that a comedy record by Kaplan, Up Your Nose, was released by Elektra Records. The record, co-written and -produced by Kaplan, dented the Billboard Hot 100 in January 1977, peaking at #93.
From 1976â78 and again in 1981, Kaplan participated in the ABC celebrity athletic competition Battle of the Network Stars. For the first five competitions, Kaplan was the captain of the ABC network team. In the very first competition, Kaplan defeated Robert Conrad, who was participating in the event representing the NBC team as its captain, in a race much to Conrad's chagrin. Kaplan, who was 31 at the time, passed Conrad, then 40, with a strong sprint to the finish line, giving ABC television network the win with 175 points. In 1981, Kaplan returned to the competition as the team captain for the NBC side, as he was appearing in the NBC TV show Lewis & Clark.
Kaplan in a scene from Welcome Back Kotter, with Marcia Strassman and Ron Palillo
After Welcome Back, Kotter, Kaplan continued with his stand-up act and was in several movies, including a starring role in Fast Break in 1979; and portrayed comic Groucho Marx in a one-man show.
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Poker[edit]
Kaplan became involved in financial markets and poker during his acting career. He made his first appearance at the World Series of Poker in 1978. In 1980, Kaplan was considered one of poker's elite, as he won the main event at Amarillo Slim's Super Bowl of Poker and was presented with 'a loving cup that was so enormous it made the gaudy gold bracelets given to the winners at the World Series of Poker look understated.'[5] Over the next five years his reputation was solidified as he made the final table at the Super Bowl's main event two more times.
In July 2004, Kaplan finished third in a World Poker Tour no-limit Texas hold 'em event, earning more than $250,000. He also finished second in the 2005 World Series of Poker $5,000 Limit Hold 'Em event, winning $222,515. Kaplan was joint TV commentator for the 1997 and 2002 WSOP events. In 2007, Kaplan won on NBC's Poker After Dark in the episode 'Queens and Kings' after defeating Kristy Gazes heads-up and outlasting Howard Lederer, Ali Nejad, Vanessa Rousso and Annie Duke in a $20,000 buy-in, six-person No-Limit Texas Hold-Em winner-take-all Sit-and-Go.
In the 2007 World Series of Poker, Kaplan finished in ninth place in the $50,000 World Championship HORSEevent, winning $131,424. As of June 2017, Kaplan's total live tournament winnings were $1,991,248.[6] His eleven cashes at the WSOP were $539,159 of those winnings.[7]
Kaplan won again on Poker After Dark during 'Cowboys' week that first aired in February 2008 against Chris Ferguson, Andy Bloch, Chau Giang, Hoyt Corkins and Doyle Brunson. Kaplan's Poker After Dark win in the first week of the 2010 season (the 'Commentators III' episode) was the greatest comeback in the show's history.[8]
Later activities[edit]
Kaplan resumed performing stand-up comedy and worked on adaptations of Welcome Back, Kotter. He still plays poker frequently and became a commentator for poker events and televised poker shows, including the National Heads-Up Poker Championship on NBC,[9]High Stakes Poker on GSN,[10] and the Intercontinental Poker Championship on CBS.
In 1995, his name was mentioned in episode 21, 'The PTA Disbands', of the sixth season of The Simpsons as a substitute teacher in Bart's class.
In 2007, he appeared in Zak Penn's improvisational comedy The Grand as Seth Schwartzman, father of brother-and-sister poker players. Also in 2007, Kaplan published a book titled Kotter's Back: E-mails from a Faded Celebrity to a Bewildered World.[11] In the book, people react to absurd e-mailed claims by Kaplan, such as that he:[11]
The book also describes his e-mails:[12]
In January 2011, GSN announced that Norm Macdonald would replace Kaplan as host of High Stakes Poker.[13]
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Poker After Dark EpisodesExternal links[edit]
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